Posts by Hold Me-Thrill Me

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Why would Jehovah and Jesus talk to Satan?

by hardtobeme in

if satan is the greatest apostate there is, why he was allowed to be in heaven?

job chapters 1 and 2 says that jehovah talked to him.

wasn't jehovah supposed to shun his son and set an example to all parents?.

Hold Me-Thrill Me

Jesus did not shun. That was a teaching that came after Jesus.

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We can no longer support "religious freedom" says the ACLU

by StarTrekAngel in

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/congress-should-amend-the-abused-religious-freedom-restoration-act/2015/06/25/ee6aaa46-19d8-11e5-ab92-c75ae6ab94b5_story.html

I'm a Christian and I agree with the ACLU, the RFRA law is being abused. Priests and ministers have done a poor job of teaching their members. Belief is a private matter not a secular one. Christians who work at state or federal jobs should obey the law. Performing a civil marriage ceremony is like collecting taxes part of the job nothing more. Serving a customer is just conducting business nothing more. Christians should differentiate between the secular and the religious and be taught how to do so.

From the Washington Post article:

"Yes, religious freedom needs protection. But religious liberty doesn’t mean the right to discriminate or to impose one’s views on others. The RFRA wasn’t meant to force employees to pay a price for their employer’s faith, or to allow businesses to refuse to serve gay and transgender people, or to sanction government-funded discrimination. In the civil rights era, we rejected the claims of those who said it would violate their religion to integrate. We can’t let the RFRA be used as a tool for a different result now.

It’s time for Congress to amend the RFRA so that it cannot be used as a defense for discrimination. Religious freedom will be undermined only if we continue to tolerate and enable abuses in its name." (emphasis mine)

"Religious freedom will be undermined only if we continue to tolerate and enable abuses in its name," I agree.

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The first 4000 years Jehovah communicates with humans,the next 2000 years is given to Jesus and he communicates with no one.

by smiddy in

the bible has ample evidence of god communicating with humans during the first 4 centuries.. since jesus time ,god has not communicated with humans at all .,in the same way as he did in the first 4 centuries .. in fact jesus has not communicated with humans in the same way as jehovah did for the first 4000 years., during his 2000 years to this date , .

does not the bible say , god does not change , he is the same today as he was yesterday and will be tomorrow ?.

so why was god communicating with humans on a regular basis , one way or another for 4000 years and then , neither jehovah or his son jesus christ ever directly contacted humans ?.

Hold Me-Thrill Me

Steve2: It is very hard to communicate when you don't exist, but "He's" working on it

LOL, Yes He is.

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The first 4000 years Jehovah communicates with humans,the next 2000 years is given to Jesus and he communicates with no one.

by smiddy in

the bible has ample evidence of god communicating with humans during the first 4 centuries.. since jesus time ,god has not communicated with humans at all .,in the same way as he did in the first 4 centuries .. in fact jesus has not communicated with humans in the same way as jehovah did for the first 4000 years., during his 2000 years to this date , .

does not the bible say , god does not change , he is the same today as he was yesterday and will be tomorrow ?.

so why was god communicating with humans on a regular basis , one way or another for 4000 years and then , neither jehovah or his son jesus christ ever directly contacted humans ?.

Hold Me-Thrill Me

Jesus' words remain as God's words. He continues to communicate.

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On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

by Perry in

child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

what is new is their institutionalization.

but even that isn't totally new.

Hold Me-Thrill Me

Perry: Child murder, Sodomy & corrupting the Human Genome are not new sins, they are old ones. What is new is their institutionalization. But even that isn't totally new. It's all happened before..... before the flood and in Sodom & Gomorrah.

When compared to the hypocrisy in Christian religions the so called "godless" are minor league players in the world of gross sins against God. No homosexual can ever be as "sinful" as some of the kings and priests of Israel who promoted child sacrifice, Christian church leaders who tortured in Christ's name and the lying hypocrisy seen among many church leaders today.

No, Perry. Christians must first clean up their own house, take the rafter out of their own eye before casting a stone at people who have not sinned as they have!

Preserving the separation of church and state is vital to the preservation of Christianity in the U.S. Christian churches should mind the business of the church and stay out of the business of forcing government to do as the church would have it do.

Government should not attempt to force churches to believe as the government would have them believe. This is a fundamental pillar of our society which must not be allowed to be broken. For if were to be broken the churches will not win out and America will cease to be America.

So Perry, encourage Christians to clean up their act and let Caesar do his thing. According to the Bible God put him there and Jesus said we should give him what belongs to him. Paul called it honor.

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planting seed with jw carpet salesman.

by prologos in

p's remark to sales man: "you must feel right at home here like the israelites who lived on carpets and inside curtains, even the tabernacle?

layers of it ---".

p: "to think that millions trekking for 40 years did not leave a trace, nothing ever turned up?

Hold Me-Thrill Me

I've been to New Mexico. You're referring to settlements, villages. The Jews did not build settlements or villages in the Sinai. They moved, stopped for a time, and moved again. No permanent structures were built. Along the New Mexico roads far from the old Indian settlements we did not find evidence of Indian habitation. Should we have concluded then that no Indians ever lived there? Hardly.

New Mexico is a beautiful state, btw.

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planting seed with jw carpet salesman.

by prologos in

p's remark to sales man: "you must feel right at home here like the israelites who lived on carpets and inside curtains, even the tabernacle?

layers of it ---".

p: "to think that millions trekking for 40 years did not leave a trace, nothing ever turned up?

Hold Me-Thrill Me

Tazemanian-devil,

Believe what you will. Last time I walked in a forest, or drove the open plains, the place was not filled with the bones of animals over 2000 years dead. Indian pottery was not laying around or easily dug up. Indian tents, moccasins, and clothing were also not to be found.

Deserts change, the sands do not remain stagnant. At one time the Sphinx was covered in sand up to its neck. Just because evidence is not found of a people spending 40 years, a miniscule amount of time, in the Sinai does not mean they were not there.

But as I said, believe what you will.

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planting seed with jw carpet salesman.

by prologos in

p's remark to sales man: "you must feel right at home here like the israelites who lived on carpets and inside curtains, even the tabernacle?

layers of it ---".

p: "to think that millions trekking for 40 years did not leave a trace, nothing ever turned up?

Hold Me-Thrill Me

"To think that millions trekking for 40 years did not leave a trace, nothing ever turned up? ----"

Giza saw decades of construction. Yet, were it not for the pyramids, temples, cities, and burial sites, permanent structures left behind, there would be no evidence that people were there. And you believe a nomadic people should have left something? Walk the sands of Arabia where for thousands of years people have traveled and think again.

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Time Magazine Article: Now’s the Time To End Tax Exemptions for Religious Institutions

by AndersonsInfo in

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friends

http://time.com/3939143/nows-the-time-to-end-tax-exemptions-for-religious-institutions/?xid=newsletter-brief.

june 28, 2015 .

nows the time to end tax exemptions for religious institutions.

Hold Me-Thrill Me

I have five comments on the article quoted above.

1. The U.S. Constitution bars the government from establishing a state religion or preventing the free exercise of religion.

2. Therefore, no church should be forced to perform same-sex marriages if such a marriage is against their beliefs.

3. Christians should not expect Caesar to abide by their beliefs and should refrain from attempting to deny the LGBT community their lawful civil rights. Separation of church and state is an established rule in the U.S.

4. Determining which church or church activity merits IRS tax exemption is difficult and risks the integrity of the church/state divide.

5. Whereas, taxing the real estate holdings of all churches and charitable institutions would be much simpler and would in fairness contribute to the expenses of the local community which bears the burden of providing services to all in the community including churches and charitable institutions.

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The Verdict: God is Not Good.

by cappytan in

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not sure if this video has been posted before here or not, but it is a powerful scene.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irfn2gdi.

i haven't watched the entire movie yet, but from this scene alone, i will be..

Hold Me-Thrill Me

"do you believe god is all-knowing, all-powerful and all-loving?

God is all-powerful. God loves those who love. God is all knowing in those things he wants to be all knowing in. Why should God care whether an amoeba exists or not?

That is foolish thinking.